Thumbnails and migrating from osCommerce

[N1VG]

I'm working on migrating a site from osC MS2.2 to osCMax v2.0.4 and the image thumbnail issues have me baffled.

One of the first things I did to my osC install was to add a dynamic thumbnail resizer (I forget which one) and I assumed osCMax would already have that, but if it does, it's not working for me.

When I upload an image via the product editor, it goes into /images. If I copy it into /images_big it shows up with the 'enlarge' link, but in any case, no thumbnail is created. If I copy my old thumbnails from the imagecache on osC, it almost works - but like osC without the resizing contribution, the thumbnails are scaled funny if they're not exactly the right size.

If I take out the height and width specifiers then it leaves my thumbnail scaling alone, but the review infobox doesn't use thumbnails! It's scaling down the full size image, only now it doesn't get scaled and it's big. Like taking up most of the screen.

Trying to sort through the Mopics documentation is driving me nuts, because while it has explanations of what all of the configuration fields do, nowhere can I find an overall description of what Mopics is supposed to do and if image scaling is part of that, or if perhaps osCMax has a different facility for that somewhere.

Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong, or if osCMax just doesn't do this, what add-on I should use?

Thanks.

Scott

[michael_s]

No auto thumbnailer in oscmax. They are too easy to install and too dependent on server configuration (GD, imagemagick, etc), and there are a ton of options.

osCMax leaves the easy stuff for you to decide. Want an auto thumbnailer, do like osCommerce and pick your poison from addons.oscommerce.com and you are good to go.

Read this for instructions on setting up your images:
22 Dynamic Mopics - osCMax - osCommerce Maximized

The documentation doesn't have anything about image resizing or scaling because none of that is handled by dynamic mopics. If you read the documentation it becomes obvious how things work. The way you set up your folders in the dynamic mopics settings determines where you upload your thumbnails.

[ridexbuilder]

Auto thumbnails for 1st image is in my Enh. MoPics Project.
Next stage to add for additional images - possibly.
RC4 (with a bug fix is stable) - a Beta of next release is ready now.

[N1VG]

Ok, thanks. I knew I'd have to install some contributions, but I was hoping a thumbnailer wouldn't be one of them. I'm concerned about breaking Dynamic Mopics in the process.

It looks like the next major hurdle is quantity price breaks. I need that to work with per-user pricing (so my wholesale customers get their own price breaks) and based on my prior experience with osC I'm not looking forward to that.

I've got a whole list of tweaks I had to make to osC, some of them significant usability bugs and mostly easy to fix - stuff like the order confirmation page looking like an order confirmation, and not the request for the customer to confirm their order that it actually is, especially when the 'confirm' button requires scrolling to get to. That caused many 'missing' orders for me. People were even printing the page for their own records without realizing it wasn't an order yet.

I haven't got that far into the osCMax setup to find how many of those are already fixed, but if there's any chance of them being acted on, I'll be happy to file bug reports on them as I encounter them.

[ridexbuilder]

I knew I'd have to install some contributions, but I was hoping a thumbnailer wouldn't be one of them. I'm concerned about breaking Dynamic Mopics in the process.

This project is specifically made to work with Dynamic MoPics

[met00]

It looks like the next major hurdle is quantity price breaks. I need that to work with per-user pricing (so my wholesale customers get their own price breaks) and based on my prior experience with osC I'm not looking forward to that.

I have been wanting to add that for some time, but the reality is that it's a real bear since it changes so much of the store and touches so many different files. I keep on putting it on the back burner.

I've got a whole list of tweaks I had to make to osC, some of them significant usability bugs and mostly easy to fix - stuff like the order confirmation page looking like an order confirmation, and not the request for the customer to confirm their order that it actually is, especially when the 'confirm' button requires scrolling to get to. That caused many 'missing' orders for me. People were even printing the page for their own records without realizing it wasn't an order yet.

which is why we are all waiting for Michael to complete and release the single page checkout. That should eliminate MOST of the problems that we all have with abandoned orders due to confirmation incompletion. [hey, when the word/phrase doesn't exist, create it]

[N1VG]

Thanks ridexbuilder. Got it installed with no trouble. Of course, the first contribution is always easy to install. =]

The default seemed to be 100px thumbnails but 150px product images, so everything was scaled and blurry, but I set it all to 100px (to match what I had before) and it looks fine.

One modification done, 2,999 to go...

[ridexbuilder]

Of course, the first contribution is always easy to install.

Ain't that the truth.
The Image sizes are pretty arbitrary by default and should be 'tweaked' to suit in Admin.,Images, as you've discovered.
Remember to use the Thanks button

Try Irfanview to batch resize - very quick - short tutorial on my website.

EJ

[N1VG]

I have been wanting to add that for some time, but the reality is that it's a real bear since it changes so much of the store and touches so many different files. I keep on putting it on the back burner.

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. It's a big enough deal for me that I'm giving serious thought to going over to CRELoaded's B2B package. The price isn't a big deal, I just need it to work right and do everything I need done. And I want to do it without abandoning thousands of customer and order records. I've already taken care of the SQL scripting to migrate my database to osCMax, but I don't know how hard it'll be on CRELoaded.

I also have some purely custom stuff to migrate, particularly customs information for automatic generation of export documentation.

which is why we are all waiting for Michael to complete and release the single page checkout. That should eliminate MOST of the problems that we all have with abandoned orders due to confirmation incompletion. [hey, when the word/phrase doesn't exist, create it]

Honestly, just changing the title to something like "Please review and confirm your order" takes care of 95% of it.

[met00]

Let me cover my migration
OSC
OSC Loaded V
CRE Loaded
an attempt at Zen since I knew the people that developed it from OSC...
OSCMax

There are any number of people that have done OSC (or derivatives). I do not personally recommend CRELoaded as I found it's behavior buggy beyond acceptability. Now they may have gotten better over time, but three years ago they were exceptionally buggy. I would say that the problems were simple fixes (like contact us being broken on install) that showed sloppy standards, the dearth of them made me very concerned about basic issues like security.

Once you get used mo BTS, you will find OSCMax like an old shoe... comfortable.

I will also say that I spent a great deal of time working with my client (Cabana here on the forums) looking at the latest in carts released and available over the last two years, and OSCMax still outshines them for base functionality and ease of use. And yes, I include the web-2.0 Magento in that as well.

So, you've got the best (in my never humble opinion) right now, it's just matter of making it work for you. I do know others have gotten quantity discounts to work with SPPC, it's just a PITA as there are lots of files to be touche and every time you open a file and dick around you increase the likelihood of breaking something that is working.